• conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works
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    14 days ago

    If I’m playing modern games on a TV? PS5 easy. But still the pro over the deck.

    I love my deck. As the handheld it’s intended to be. It’s not powerful enough for an acceptable experience running a AAA 3D game on a TV screen. You can ignore the resolution and artifacts and just generally low visual quality and poor frame rate on a small screen, because playing the games portably at all is a huge step up. You can’t ignore any part of it on a TV. It’s fine for indie games, older games, 2D stuff, etc.

    But it doesn’t have the performance for a good living room experience if you’re looking to play modern AAA games. (Ignoring all their bullshit rootkits on PC that block a lot of multiplayer games out completely, which are the games you have to pay for on PS. You just can’t play most of them on Linux at all.)

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
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      13 days ago

      I really like my PS5, but I see no value in a model costing 80% more and being only current for half a generation.

      All that for an “up to” 40% performance increase.

      I don’t care how much of a graphics nerd someone is, that just isn’t worth it.

  • amenotef@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    I’m not sure if it’s the meme but here (Europe) there is a huge difference in price between the basic 512GB OLED SD and the basic PS5 pro option.

    569€ vs 800€.

  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    14 days ago

    If you think $700 is bad, it’s £700 in the UK… which is $913. 🤢

    Also:

    • median household income, UK (2022): £32,400 ($42,265)

    • median household income, USA (2022): $74,580

    A PS5 Pro is 26% of the typical UK household monthly income.

    A PS5 Pro is 11% of the typical US household monthly income.

    The US pricing is bad. The UK pricing is absolutely insane.

    The OLED Deck starts at £479. Still a lot but not as egregious. The LCD Deck is currently £262 ($344), which is pretty great.

    • drathvedro@lemm.ee
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      14 days ago

      If you think 26% is bad, in Russia it’s going to be priced at around ₽80-100k(~$883, VAT included), but the median monthly salary is ₽43.500 - $480… That’s well over 100% median household income given that over 38% families only have a single parent. And I’m pretty sure that’s not even the worst out there, think like Argentina has an extortionate import tax or something?

  • arthurpizza@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    14 days ago

    Eventually, Sony will stop supporting the PS5 and it’ll be a brick. If Valve ever stops supporting the Steamdeck, it’ll keep running.

    • ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz
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      14 days ago

      These devices have different use cases. Steam Deck also is digital only. If a publisher decides to kill a game, they can control whether you can or can’t play the game. PS5 Pro is expensive, but so are video cards nowadays. PS5 Pro is just following a trend set years before, including the shift from physical games and cost. The only way to stop anti-consumer trends is to stop buying expensive hardware (PS5 Pro included). Also, give some love to physical copies of games.

      • Tech With Jake@lemm.ee
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        14 days ago

        Saying the Steam Deck is digital only is like saying a tower computer is digital only. That’s purely false. If you can put it on a tower computer, you can put it on the Steam Deck.

        All the Steam Deck, like many modern tower computers, needs for physical copies is a USB media reader.

        • ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz
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          14 days ago

          If we can argue that Sony will stop supporting the PS5 in the future, who’s to say in the future, (without the good leadership), Steam won’t restrict what can be put on the Steam Deck? We have a lot of arguments for wanting a Steam Deck and an alternative OS to boot for gaming, but saying PS5 will be bricked in the future is not a strong one.

          • xavier666@lemm.eeEnglish
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            13 days ago
            • Take Steam Deck
            • Wipe OS and install Bazzite/Nobara
            • Install Heroic Launcher / Non Steam Launcher
            • Install games from them

            Nuclear apocalypse happens and internet is down

            • Get ISOs of games in a USB drive
            • Plug it into the deck and install
  • exanime@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    And for those who have not tried it, the desktop is fully functional (not some half baked version. My son uses the desktop mode as a full school workstation for internet browsing, email, teams, Google docs, etc

    • penquin@lemm.ee
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      13 days ago

      That is KDE Plasma for those who are curious. It is one of the main desktop environments in Linux. It is my daily driver on my main PC. It is the most customizable desktop I know of. There is nothing you can’t change.

      • xavier666@lemm.eeEnglish
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        13 days ago

        Hi there, just a small correction. Compared to existing linux distros, it’s slightly different. Steam OS is an immutable OS, which means you can’t edit the root partition (Like you can’t edit the C:\ drive in Windows). This is both good and bad.

        Good -> Users can’t mess up their device while trying to mess around with it. Updates are smooth because Valve knows the previous state of the OS.

        Bad -> It’s bad only for extreme power users as it’s not fully customizable. You can’t run your own kernel, install certain build packages to do some advanced stuff. But this is a tiny tiny bad.

        Overall, Steam OS is great and I believe will be the gateway for the general PC crowd.