It’s impressive how duckduckgo manages to be so much better than bing despite being a frontend for bing

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    5 months ago

    is it based on your searches or something? both in the browser with fingerprint protection where it thinks im from Usa and from the one where it detects my correct location the first result is from logi.com. I really hate bing, specially since they started pushing ai, but dunno, doesnt seem like the normal user experience what you are getting.

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    5 months ago

    SearXNG is also amazing. The only reason I don’t use it more is because it doesn’t have an integration into the URL bar in Firefox.

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    5 months ago

    💸 Microsoft 🤑 got 💰 paid 🫰 so… they managed to come out ahead of this whole ordeal just fine.

    The rest of us can go suck a bag of dicks for all they care.

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    Okay, totally off topic…what is it with this annoying trend of censoring a company/name with an asterisk when it’s a subject of ire? It just bugs me - and not in a way that focuses my anger to Microsoft.

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      With stuff like Tesla and Twitter, it can keep away the weird nerds who search those terms in hopes of white-knight-sealioning a conversation into oblivion. I think it just became part of the lexicon.

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      It conveys “I have such a disdain for that thing that I’m asterisking its name like it was a slur or swear word”.

      I’m not a big fan either, even if you can find some secondary roles for that (as keeping someone from finding it, like ilinamorato exemplified). It distracts the reader from what is being said to the author’s personal opinion about what is being said.

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    I mean… you went to Bing to search for a program. That’s something that a new or inexperienced user would do, and Bing tried to help. It gave a direct link to the software (a link which I just tested to be working and safe on a virtual machine), it instructed how to do it using the official website, and then as a third option, it gave a link to the website.

    I know that a lot of people will automatically assume a site like Softonic is loaded with malware (and I don’t have the time to refute all of those claims) but the download they provided of the software was just a mirror of the official download and came with no added malware, spyware, or adware. Use at your own risk, but OP is pretty clearly fearmongering in an attempt to get people to give them internet points.

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      This is absurd.

      Typing “Logitech unifying software download” in the address bar is massively less effort than navigating their shitshow of a site. It’s not a sign of inexperience in any way.

      Allowing an ad with any third party download is an insane policy, and it is not a legitimate practice at all to use an unreliable third party with a well deserved bad reputation to download software in place of the manufacturer.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      People are going to see this, so here’s the answer.

      Logitech’s web UI is crap. See that tiny, unlabled triangle on the list on the left?

      Click it and pick your OS version.

      Then you get the download.

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        …huh. TIL.

        The last time I had to download the unifying software it was more obvious than that.

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    5 months ago

    Is softonic actually malware or an unreliable repository that may contain malware? I’ve never actually clicked in lol

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      I unknowingly downloaded some software from there when I was a kid, and, from what I remember, it came bundled with some sort of update manager or something. Even if it’s not outright malware, I would wager most people who are looking to download logitech’s utility don’t want some irrelevant third-party garbage on their system. So AT BEST it’s crapware / bloatware

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        They had some issues with their downloader in the past but that thing has been canned a long time ago. It’s not a great site but it isn’t malware.

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    4 months ago

    i remember i got a opera broswer recommended on bing when i was searching for zen which is a firefox fork

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    Oh my god that’s amazing. Instructions on how to do what you’re literally doing, dead internet theory is so correct. Instructions for robots by robots

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      Unpopular opinion: dead internet is not only real, but GOOD. Once robots get good enough to autonomously sign up for websites and make convincing posts, this will force us humans to go actually outside, make friends, form deep social relationship, and build lasting, resilient communities. Meanwhile on the internet, websites that are willing to allow AI content for money will eventually die out due to lack of actual users. The only remaining websites will be run by individuals and organizations with non-profit motives, and a strict human-only policy with verification based on word-of-mouth / invite system.

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        this will force us humans to go actually outside, make friends, form deep social relationship, and build lasting, resilient communities

        There is no chance it goes that way, how is talking to people outside even an option for someone used to just being on the internet? Even if the content gets worse, the basic mechanisms to keep people scrolling still function, while the physical and social infrastructure necessary for in person community building is nonexistent.

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        I’m extremely wary and nervous about how disruptive LLMs can/will be but one relief is just getting an answer directly for things instead of wading through page after page of SEO optimized BS. Just really nice when you can get a quick answer and get back to the things you want to be doing.

        I suppose the AI overlords will screw that up somehow too but IMO it’s at a brief moment of usefulness.

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          If the answer is even correct. Friend tried to use it to see what laptops with 4k screens cost and all 3 options were in fact, not 4k at all because the AI is dog shit :)

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            No that’s very true, I had it look up leather repair shops not too long ago and it listed six completely fictional shops with fully fleshed out trip-advisor style blurbs for each one. It was hilariously convincing and a complete waste of my time. But it does seem like that happens less and less lately.

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              Thing is, you never have any clue whether the AI is telling you something even remotely true unless you go behind it and trawl through six pages of shitty SEO-optimized bullshit anyway. So you can either take its word at face value and potentially be completely wrong, or else just do the research yourself anyway and ignore the AI answer.

              Personally, I choose the second. I find it to be less frustrating if I just assume the AI is wrong.

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                This is kinda how I’ve come to look at it. You cannot ask questions of fact to a machine that works in probabilities.

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    5 months ago

    Next time just go directly to the domain. You don’t need to rely on a search engine for all web navigation, you know.

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    Your search query is garbage incidentally. Unifying is a “feature” not the name of any particular software. You should have searched for the model of your hardware

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    5 months ago

    If you know you want Logitech software, why not go directly to the Logitech site and search there?

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    I wouldn’t say it’s borderline unusable tbh…

    The first adware result is blocked with any ad blocker, the fact you see it means you might not have your ad blocker on, or disabled in incognito mode.

    The second and third copilot bullshit sections can be toggled off from any search result page, on the sidebar settings there’s a toggle.

    I do appreciate the bing rewards thing, basically every few weeks I get a gift card because you earn points by using bing