• JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world
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      29 days ago

      I used to volunteer with my local thrift store and anytime there was something donated they didn’t think they could sell it would get sent to goodwill lol

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        29 days ago

        I do this too. Any junk that might be sellable but likely not goes to Goodwill so they can deal with it. The decent items go to a local thrift shop that actually helps the community.

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    29 days ago

    Goodwill is built on under paying it’s labor. They take advantage of laws that allow them to pay disabled people whatever they want. The laws were meant to help provide labor, get disabled people back into a productive life, and provide some extra income so they weren’t completely reliant on Social Security.

    That sounds noble right? Well Goodwill has been caught paying people less than a dollar an hour. And as you see here, they aren’t giving discounts to the people who have to shop at a thrift store either.

    They’re walking away with a massive upwards redistribution of wealth from the lower classes to the upper classes. Also I expect someone will be along soon to yell at me, (a disabled person), about the dignity of work and how no one else is providing it. Also in this picture, the meat packing industry which has been caught using mentally disabled people for less than minimum pay in dangerous conditions.

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      29 days ago

      Hi, I’m disabled although I’m still working (at the moment, may break further). I agree with you.

      The biggest issue to consider for any company hiring a significantly disabled person, whether mentally, physically, or both, is they’ll be less productive and may require much more oversight, meaning they contribute less to the company. This is the justification behind the lower pay. It makes sense if you’re a shit sack capitalist that values production above anything else.

      With that being said, Goodwill is absolutely taking advantage of the disabled. They’re ostensibly a non-profit charity that exists to provide employment, leading to training and work experience, to the disabled community. They pay their disabled employees the lowest amount possible, actively working to justify low pay. Imagine if your employer was constantly looking to drop your salary so you had to constantly fight them over it. Now pretend you have a significant TBI or are developmentally disabled (just imagine your mental capacity while drunk, but without the feeling good) and still having to fight that. Welcome working for Goodwill.

      Fuck Goodwill right in their “charity” hole.

  • Marx2k@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    29 days ago

    What’s really annoying is originally my town had three chains of thrift stores. Savers, St. Vincent’s DePaul and Goodwill. Savers had multiple locations and was generally considered the go-to. St Vinnies was a bit more boutique-y depending on which you went to and Goodwill was always digging through dumpsters.

    Savers left town, St Vinnies became much more boutique and expensive and goodwill, while still a dumpster, also became a lot more expensive.

    It’s annoying :/

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      28 days ago

      There was a big expose in them in the early 90’s about how much the top got paid, that 80% of income went to paying staff, and rampant nepotism.

      Fuck Good Will

    • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
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      28 days ago

      Why all the hate towards Goodwill ? They are a non-religious, pro-labor, vocational organization that gives everyone a chance at employment through donations and sales of donated goods programs that fund other vocational services as a non-profit.

      people treat them like a dumpster. but they are not a dumpster. and they work towards the good with people in difficult situations.

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      28 days ago

      What makes you say “never has been”? This is obviously shitty but I remember that maybe 10 years ago they had more affordable pricing for the less fortunate who couldn’t buy new clothes.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    Almost everything in the Goodwill in Rochester, MN is brand new.

    Weird as fuck. And we’re not talking just things like brand new clothes, we’re also talking about things like HDMI cables still in the packaging or clearly unused garden ornaments.

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      29 days ago

      ROCHESTER, MN, MENTIONED RAHHH 🐺🐺🐺🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 WHAT THE FUCK IS BAD HEALTHCARE ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🐺🐺🇺🇸🇺🇸🐺🇺🇸🇺🇸

      My wife and I love thrifting in Rochester for that reason, especially with MN’s tax-free clothing.

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    29 days ago

    Someone please correct me if im wrong because I’m too lazy to look it up, but I was told goodwill is for profit.

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    29 days ago

    Goodwill has started doing regional pricing. They will actually sort high value items out of donations and send them to higher income areas to target middle class “thrifters” who are not as price sensitive. These stores are basically like TJ Maxx in terms of pricing.

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      29 days ago

      Also noticed that affluent areas often have donation centers that don’t have attached stores - because they want that fucking treasure for online listings probably.

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      29 days ago

      Fuck the working class if you live in a high cost of living area I guess? But that also explains why my local Goodwill turns away so many donations. They’re getting fed by other places.

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    29 days ago

    Charging as much as they can get is very consistent with their mission. It’s not their mission to provide a low-cost store where poor people can buy things. It’s to create jobs. The people working at Goodwill are what the entire thing is about. And if they make more money they can add more jobs. It’s not a goal to have low prices.

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      Charging as much as they can get is very consistent with their mission. It’s not their mission to provide a low-cost store where poor people can buy things. It’s to create jobs. The people working at Goodwill are what the entire thing is about. And if they make more money they can add more jobs. It’s not a goal to have low prices.

      They don’t add jobs for shit. Half the staff is there on court order and the rest are underpaid as fuck. Fuck goodwill

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        That sounds a little harsh for what they do. So these jobs are not competitive or we could even say they are lousy. But the people getting them would otherwise be in jail or otherwise unemployable. Organizations like this are a half step toward normal life for a lot of people coming from a dark place. It’s not a place to make a career.

        It’s also based on religious kookiness which I always think is a bad foundation for any organization.

        But I’m not going to say “Fuck Goodwill.” I swear there are people on the internet who think literally everything is borderline slavery.

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          There’s a thousand retail and fast food establishments out there dying for labor right now. There’s no need to use Goodwill as a halfway house. They aren’t teaching skills. They just give them a job and pay them less than minimum wage. If this was a job training program then there would be a point. But there isn’t.

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      29 days ago

      No providing products to the working class was very much part of their mission. It obviously isn’t anymore.

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    29 days ago

    Reselling took off in the past few years and everyone thought they could get in on it. Goodwill realized that they were leaving money on the table and started jacking up prices and opened their own online auction site for the better stuff.

    Dumdums who think they want to get into reselling keep buying junk for high prices there and then can’t handle the reselling game.

  • Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world
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    Idk if that’s out of control or not anymore, what’s a dollar worth? But I’ve avoided goodwill for Habitat for a while because there were various stories over the years about shady things. Now, they’re big and basically all franchises so some of this was always gonna happen; lawsuits w/ racist/sexist/otherwise discriminatory managers will eventually happen once a company gets large enough, and franchises have a lot of independent control which leads to a lot of variance, good and bad, at different locations.

    But they’re also pretty shit at the corporate level: https://www.cracked.com/article_33357_15-impressively-evil-things-goodwill-has-done.html

    So overall, on the astronomically low bar of regular evil corporate behavior, they’re middling, but you should probably donate/shop elsewhere if you want to do the most good.

    • desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      29 days ago

      all companies take advantage of poor people, the poors are terrible at making long term decisions because they don’t have enough capital to afford them.

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        While true, there are levels, just like dante’s circles of hell. Not all companies entire business models are specifically designed to take advantage of people’s good nature and/or poor people’s desperation…

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    I hate Goodwill out here. They have the least selection of crap, and charge absurdly high prices like this. I go to another local chain of thrift stores called The Hope Chest. There’s like 4 of them around here and they rock. Usually go there for pants because I can find good quality materials and spend like $5 for 6 pairs.

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          But let’s also be fair, as in “I gave it to them for free out of convenience while getting rid of the stuff that I’d feel bad just throwing away”

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            I wouldn’t say donating to Goodwill is convenient. It’s more convenient to just throw it away. And reduce/reuse/recycle is a good thing. The bad thing here is Goodwill is blocking the three Rs by marking up the price. Which means they will probably just throw it away eventually because no one will buy it for that. Hopefully they will at least send it to a garment recycler later so that it’s laundered and then shredded to either r make new clothing, or stuffing for pillows or boxing bags.

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              That’s why I said “that I’d feel bad throwing away”.

              The stages for high end go like this: sent to “goodwill boutique” and/or listed online. Sent to cheaper local goodwill with markdown. Added to cheap-item-Sunday (for ones that still do that). Sent to bulk outlet (where people fill a bag and pay one price for entire bag or by the pound). Finally, recyclers

              So they don’t block it so much as delay I suppose. But they’ve gotten good at regionalizing their processes

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        If they’re free market then they aren’t a thrift store, charity, or a non profit.

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          They’re non-profit because the profit isn’t their focus - they have a specific mission. They’re a charity because they use the money they raise for a social cause. It’s free market because they set prices based on the buying behavior of the public. When they price too high, more of the public decides not to buy or buys elsewhere.

          It can be all three.

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              So what you wrote before was not what you meant. You meant because they deceptively market themselves, they aren’t a thrift store, charity, or non-profit.

              I don’t know enough about Goodwill to be able to judge that. I’m only saying that charities selling goods, even donated goods, at market prices to raise money for their cause is not at odds with their status or necessarily their mission.

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                Sorry sometimes I do steps in my head. But yeah charity doesn’t come from a place of deception. If they said we’re selling to the middle class to raise money for the lower classes then that would be okay.