• SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Watched without sound.

    It looks… Alright, I guess. Very photo real. Not super colorful. Kind’ve looks like a modern crime drama, which gives me a bad taste and feels like it’s gonna be shitty. That one scene walking out of the convince store with the beer, though, was super trashy and I could get behind that.

    A thought I had while watching: gta:vc came out in 2002. It takes place in 1986. That means THAT level of nostalgia and romanticization of the period was only looking back 16 years.

    16 years before 2026 would be 2010. They easily could have done another period piece with gta6 for vice City in the 90s, 00s, or 2010s. But I guess now that I think about it, things are more fucked up and insane now than they’ve been in a long time, so why not satirize what’s going on in the world today? It’s prime juicy bullshit, kind’ve like what gta3 did in 2001. So it’s fine I guess.

    Maybe they’ll have good music and really good social commentary? I think then we’re entering a new era of GTA - where instead of satirizing and sensationalizing a vibe like a movie would, it’s just going to straight up do it to real life. GTA then has a lot of opportunity to reinvent itself, basically, as The Onion - The Game, based in Miami.

    Will they? Likely no. It would take balls to make a game essentially shitting all over magas. Rockstar is going to have to pull off a hattrick in their writing and tone to pull this off, despite an open and for the taking goldmine that is reality, and they don’t have the cajones anymore.

    I’ll see how the release does on pc and likely play it as long as they don’t monetize it past game price, and maybe future expansions. If there are periodical passes, this might be the first mainline title of theirs I’ll skip. The shark cards in gta5online, how grindy that was, the loading times, and hedging tone and neutured jokes in the single player, has them already at a very low karma standing for me. It also better release on steam.

    This game will absolutely break records, regardless. This is just me from this trailer, without sound.

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      Dumbest take of all time besides when Trump speaks.

      Imagine judging a a trailer with no sound and saying “it looks all right” like if it truly doesn’t look insane.

      “Not super colorful” mfer you color blind??? They nailed the anesthetics of Miami. Guess you can’t see all the neon lights, and the beautiful dresses and the colors of the cars nor the weather. Yea super not colorful 🤡

      And you bet your ass Rockstar is gonna lean on all these fools you think Rockstar backs down from making fun of world events? Lmao

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      I think it’s interesting how much nostalgia there was for the 80s 20 years ago, compared to 00s nostalgia today. It feels like the cultural/aesthetic differences between the 80s and 00s are so much stronger than the 00s and today.

      All that to say I kinda disagree on making GTA 6 a 2000s period piece

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      I don’t think a lot of people are going to double dip this time. This game will sell consoles, but it’s not going to make up for the deficit the console market has compared to how many PS3s and Xbox 360s were out there in 2013.

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        Back in 2013, I bought an old PS3 + GTA5 for £150 or so just to play the game, then once I had it, picked up two more exclusives, before never touching it again pretty quickly.

        Getting a console for GTA6, plus the game, this time may set me back more than my expendable income after rent and bills. It will absolutely sell consoles but I’d wager people are actually able to buy a console much less than in 2013.

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        I really hope this is true. The only thing that will stop Rockstar from the delayed PC release nonsense in the future is actually stopping the double dip.

        I ended up with a PS4 just for Red Dead 2. But I still haven’t bought it on PC and have no plans to do so.

        The thing is, the PS4 kind of made sense because I also wanted a Blu-Ray player. I still have it for that, so a PS5 would be an impossible sell to me. It’s like Rockstar tries to sell consoles but this time around is one of the worst ever console eras.

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          So you don’t have a 4k blu-ray player? Consoles still make sense for many people, despite the obvious market issues we have today.

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              Well, 4k is a great technology for gaming and cinema, highly recommended if you have the space.

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                I’m with them; my 1080p TV still gets the job done and looks great to me. Maybe I’d be more invested in cinema if cinema cared more about what I want. I can’t even walk into brick and mortar and buy a movie anymore, and it’s not like there’s a GOG for movies.

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                  There’s a time and place for 4k. It is not all the time. But some things are treats with high resolution and pixels-per-fov of your vision. Also oled looks so, so good.

                  That being said, 1080p for older stuff looks perfectly fine, and I’d argue audio quality, audio stereo image, and accurate frequency spectrum resolution is game changing, and arguably more important.

                  RE: gog for movies: that is a fascinating idea. What would that look like, to you? I’m very curious.

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                  My tv is 4k, but I exclusively watch 1080p movies and series on it. I’m not going to double my subscription costs just to get 4k streaming, and most piratable files are 1080p.

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                  Yeah if you care about cinema you definely want a better resolution and considering to buy your UHD versions whenever available, but I could say the same for some modern videogames.

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                  I’m watching things in 4K and playing in 1080p. It’s exactly four times the pixels, so it’s pixel-perfect scaling and it looks fine. (58" TV and the sofa is about 3 metres far, so a bit on the smallish side. I’m sure a 65" would look just as good.)

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      I don’t even have a console unless they plan on releasing it on Switch 2… so yeah, it’s gonna be a longer wait and I’m okay with that.

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      It’s coming to PC about a year later; chill the fuck out. You goldfish do this with every GTA release. It’s annoying as hell.

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        What is annoying as hell is Rockstar not getting with the times and acknowledging PC as a viable option existing in the gaming space.

        Microsoft is pivoting towards it entirely and and Sony is leaning on it.

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          It’s a double dipping technique.
          First all players are hyped for GTA6, some even buying a console to experience it on launch day.
          Then the PC release get’s out 1-2 years later and everyone with a capable rig know it will run better there and buy it again.

          Assuming it will be a 80€ game, they now made 160€ in revenue instead of 80.

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          Again, it’s coming to PC. Every GTA game comes to PC eventually. Rockstar purposely waits 6+ months to announce the PC version, because they know people like you will double dip. It happens every single time, and you keep falling for it.

          I’m not saying that Rockstar is in the right for doing it this way, but they keep doing it cause you keep forgetting that they do this every time. The downvotes prove it; none of y’all ever learn. That’s why I’m so annoyed.

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    Can’t wait to pick this up for $30 on PC 3 years after it’s released. Fuck $80 games and fuck double-dip releases that don’t release same-day on PC.

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      There’s literally no reason in this day and age to not release on pc on day 1. Xb and ps market share is absolutely losing ground to pc at record time, there’s no reason anymore.

      If they don’t pc release day 1, then I guess gta6 actually just comes out 2027.

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        I mean there is a reason, and that reason is they can get people to buy it twice.

        It’s a shitty reason for consumers but a viable one for publishers nonetheless.

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      Unless you have no plans to play Online, the money you’ll spend on Shark Cards trying to catch up with established players will far exceed $80. That’s why I stopped playing GTA V Online—I got tired of grinding for cash, just to keep up with the unemployed people who dedicate their lives to one game (I refuse to spend money on microtransactions in any game). Either play at launch, or don’t bother with Online.

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    Maybe I’m just old, but I feel like all the people complaining about no PC port at launch, or how this trailer doesn’t show gameplay must be ‘new’ to the series (which to be fair, could mean as much as a decade).

    This is how Rockstar have pretty much always done it, going all the way back to GTA3 on the PlayStation 2; PC ports have always been 6+ months after.

    Trailer 1 tends to be about the setting, Trailer 2 about the primary characters, then Trailer 3/4 about the supporting characters. ‘Gameplay Trailers’ usually don’t come out around/after launch as that’s usually what’s being still being worked on by the devs.

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      Rockstar was a PC gaming company before they went into consoles. GTA 1 and 2 were made for PC before being ported to console.

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        I know, which is why I specifically called out from GTA3 onwards. 😜

        They’ve been console first for a lot longer than not; pretty much ever since they changed their name from DMA Design to Rockstar North.

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        Wasted breath.

        I’d be surprised if they did release on console and PC at the time. Literally hasn’t been done by Rockstar yet, so why would they start now?

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        Feel free to complain, no one is trying to stop you. Just understand though that you are screaming into the void, and nothing will come of it bar heightened cortisol.

        Grand Theft Auto is the arguably the most profitable gaming franchise ever, and it got there doing this exact release cadence. Rockstar Games & Take-Two Interactive will continue to do so for as long as it continues to maximise profits.

        Does it stuck for us gamers? Absolutely, but that’s just Capitalism. Given how quickly this hobby has been enshittified over the post decade, we should probably be counting our lucky stars that it looks like Rockstar is still investing heavily into the next entry, and not just pumping out shallow annual releases like Call of Duty!

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    Even if it comes on PC, it will come with the stupid Rockstar launcher.

    I have now decided to stop playing games that require anything else than just pure Steam or GOG Galaxy.

    This way I could pass to Linux and don’t have to install crappy bloatware on my machine.

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      Just FYI: I’ve had a really good experience with Heroic launcher. Use for playing those Epic freebies I’ve accumilated over the years, and has been pretty solid, almost Steam-like experience.

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        Just a warning to those interested like me:

        • they don’t explicitly mention Rockstar Launcher compatibility (unless I missed it somewhere)
        • they mention possibility of a ban when trying to use online features through their launcher.

        So hypothetically, if GTA VI comes to PC, this may not be a workaround for Rockstar Launcher, and even if it is, online might be a sketchy.

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        I second this. I would use an epic account like a burner account and just get all those free giveaways. Heroic works for the Amazon prime games as well. I played a little bit of trek to Yomi the other day because I had a friend mentioned it was free on epic and I didn’t even realize I already had it.

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    You know what’s wild? The original Vice City was a period piece, taking place in 1986, 16 years before the year it was released. This Vice City will be released 13 years after the last GTA.

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    Just cutscenes, no gameplay, as always with these trailers. Cutscenes look nice but that doesn’t mean shit.

    Why can’t they show at least a glimpse of gameplay.

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      maybe they’ll release the gameplay later, it looks similar to how GTA 5 trailers were released, the gameplay came after the second trailer.

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      Because the game isn’t out for another year and it’s unreasonable to expect them to show current gameplay because it won’t be at all representative for the final result.

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    The first thing i noticed is the awful amount of TAA/Upscaling artefacting. Apart from that it looks good i guess. I mean its GTA. It will probably be an enjoyable game. But still: Fuck Rockstar. Fuck Take2.

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      As long as they let you turn off the upscaling I won’t complain about it. Unfortunately there has been a trend as of late to force it on; the artifacting drives me nuts. It’s always harder to to see in youtube videos though, since they are compressed quite a bit compared to live play.

      Biggest thing that concerns me was their focus on pushing one into multiplayer in V. I’m worried that is going to intensify since it made them so damn much money doing that last time.

      Either way, game isn’t out for a year, and it isn’t out for PC for probably two years. So, just going to go back to enjoying my Breath of Fire IV playthrough I’m currently doing. :)

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        You mean aside from abandoning RDR Online, cancelling GTA V singleplayer DLC in favour of GTA Online shark cards, intentionally delaying the PC release of GTA V to maximise the number of people who would buy the game more than once because of FOMO, absolute dog shit support and punishing their community by crushing the modding community? I’m not sure.

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          It took them until this year to finally start addressing rampant cheating in GTAO PC.

          The most profitable game in history, and they couldn’t muster a solution to the hacking/bullshit until now.

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            Did they finally do something about the modders on GTAV online? I used to play but ended up with a stalker that made the game unplayable for me because he would kick me anytime I got online, for weeks. I had to download one of the paid mod menus to stay hidden from him until I just didn’t feel like paying for that anymore and just gave up and stopped playing. It was extremely frustrating to say the least.

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              Yeah, they finally added one of the common anti-cheat tools to it. No anti-cheat is perfect, but it has made a huge difference.

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          I’m not sure what support you’re talking about, and I’ve never delved into mods for GTA V, but the rest are just sensible business decisions, at least up until now; we’ll see how the different modern dynamic between consoles and PC plays out this time, but I think it’s the last time they’ll do it. As with all these exclusivity deals that are quickly dying out, that PC version will come, and that’s when I’ll play it.

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              I don’t know why you’re being nasty to me. I genuinely wasn’t sure why someone would have an issue with Rockstar. If they don’t want to make story DLC for GTA V, it’s much the same as Valve not making a Portal 3. I can just move on and play something else. Focusing on a console release first and foremost, especially for a project as ambitious as this, made a lot more sense in the past, and maybe was still common wisdom when the project got rolling. It will stop due to natural market forces. Speaking of natural market forces, it’s exactly why RDR2 Online would be abandoned: there weren’t enough people to care about it compared to its costs. Modding isn’t really my world, so I wouldn’t exactly be privy to those shenanigans, but that sucks.

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                I don’t think he’s being nasty to you. His frustration is with Rockstar for abandoning GTA to sell microtransactions instead of make content. A lot of people are mad at valve for not making Half-Life/Portal/Left4Dead 3 just like a lot of people are mad at Rockstar for taking 13 years to release a new GTA game.

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                  Personally, I don’t think that’s worth getting mad over, especially not in this saturated market right now where there’s always something great to play. Valve worked on Half-Life, Portal, and Left 4 Dead many times since their last iterations, but you have to give creatives time to throw out what’s not working. And plenty of game developers I like work on plenty of stuff I’m not interested in. I just wait for them to come back around to the stuff I am interested in. In the case of live service stuff, it sucks, but Rockstar’s hardly unique there.

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                Sorry if I came across as nasty, my disdain is entirely with Rockstar and T2. After GTAIV, and the exceptional story and DLC we got many of us were excited to see what DLC was in store for GTAV. To have Rockstar to walk back the planned DLC in favour pushing shark cards and micro-transactions in GTA Online left many of us feeling pretty betrayed at the time.

                Regarding the launch, GTAV originally came out on Xbox 360 and PS3 in September 2013, then on a new console generation in November 2014, and didn’t come to PC until April 2015. Many were doubtful that a company with the resources and talent available to Rockstar needed such a delay, and it stank of another tactic to maximise the number of people buying multiple copies.

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                  Gotcha. No worries. I’m more disappointed that basically everyone in the industry stopped making crime stories except for Yakuza, but we’ve got two coming this year, at least, in MindsEye and Mafia: The Old Country.