That’s $4.17 a month. It’s even cheaper if you get a family account and share with your family and / or friends like i do. (I am actually UK, but it seems the US price is the most quoted.) And comes with all the n64 (and the new gamecube) games. Its the cheapest online service of the three main consoles.
Also, to be clear. Im not a big switch guy, and i think nintendo are a greedy company. I mostly play playstation these days but my switch is handy and there are some amazing first party games.
…on top of all the other “It’s only $X!” subscription services out there. If it’s the ONLY subscription you have, sure, that’s not bad, but how common is that?
person just unironically said they pay nintendo 5 bucks a month for the privilege to play a curated list of 40 year old games you can quite literally find anywhere online. That’s 60$ a year to access an emulator they probably have less than 10 hours of playtime on. There’s just really no justification for Nintendo anymore, BOTW broke me and I had to be talked into it.
Second. I said i am in the UK, so i dont bay any dollars a month.
Third, I pay for 1 quarter of £5 a month, which is the monthly cost of a family account. Which i said i have. So it’s actually £1.25 ($1.64) a month.
Forth, The games that come with the expansio are not 40 years old.the expansion gives you the n64, gameboy advance and genesis games, which are 28, 23 and 35 years old respectively.
Fifth, as well that i get 48 mario kart maps, as well ss some other games. On top of the online play which you get in the standard pack, and some other bits.
Sixth, i have played and completed mario 64 and bajo kazooie on the n64 emulator. I have introduced my son to mario kart 64 as well. I also am slowly working my way through jet force gemini. I have complete goldeneye played multiplayer with my brothers here and there and am working through perfect dark. On the GBA emulator i am playing golden sun. 10 hours is a severe underestimate for all that and more.
Finally. If you are salty about BOTW, then thats your problem. But dont go around lying about what i said to make yourself feel better.
Good lord, you’re actually gonna come down and try to defend your actions like some kind of corporate propagandist. Fucking sad really how you’ve got it all twisted. SOMEONE IS PAYING FOR THE SERVICE! I don’t care how many people are listed and aren’t using it, YOU’RE STILL PAYING FOR A YEARLY SUBSCRIPTION FOR A FUCKING ONLINE EMULATOR. Where the fuck was a lie made? Care to misrepresent some more shit?
It’s 4.17 not 5? I should take that as my first clue you’re not serious. People round up to 5 for meals all the time, this is such a strange thing to start on.
Responding to the news on X, former PlatinumGames co-founder and current Clovers Studio founder Hideki Kamiya – who regularly posts about his love of classic games – criticised the move, asking for the return of the Virtual Console service, which was available on Wii, Wii U and 3DS and allowed individual games to be bought.
“Hey hey hey, I guess subscriptions are no good after all,” Kamiya wrote. “Seriously, bring back the Virtual Console… don’t be so mean.”
It should also be noted that numerous retro games were delisted from Virtual Console over the years too, including Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Yoshi’s Cookie, Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure, Aleste, SimCity, Street Fighter II, Final Fight 1-3, Super Turrican 2 and Super R-Type.
for 1-6, you’re paying a rental subscription service to play an emulator… just type emulator into a search engine, go to one of the hundreds of sites. Hell, go to archive.org and get the official nintendo online emulator pack.
Guess what?!?! I’m not gonna charge you a fucking penny and I’m not gonna log onto your device and remove your data!! You’re welcome!!
(don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about BOTW for, it was an example that nintendo is making shittier products and can’t be relied upon anymore if their flagship game can’t even run properly on the console, keep making an ass of yourself though)
4.17 is closer to 4 not 5. I dont care if you spend more on meals than you owe because you dont see that. I was only pointing out that you rounded up the cost to emphasise a point that is invalid because i am not even paying 4.17, let alone 5 a month. So yeah i am gonna defend myself when, like i said, i am actually paying 1.25 (or 5 by your logic. Or would it be 0 because 1.25 rounds down to 0 in your world)
The lie you made is the price i am paying, what you get for the monthly cost. Again, you dont round down online access, multiple game expansions and a list of old games to just some old emulators.
You are purposfully ignoring features and increasing the price to make it seem like you are more rightm its dishonest and childish.
I have used emulators since the no$cash game boy emulator. For the most part they are good. But they dont play all games perfectly. Like banjo is full of glitches and crashes when emulated. Same for mario 64. Same for goldeneye. So not only are you underselling the nintendo switch emulator, you are overselling emulators like dolphin etc.
I appreciate the convenience of taking the emulated games away from the desktop due to the switches portability and if its costing me less than the proce of a cup of coffee per month then i would happily pay for the convenience. Its like netflix when iflt first came along. It beat piracy because it was cheap and convenient. Now that its so expensive the piracy starts again.
Did you just link to an article to show that they are removing games which actually just shows they removed 1 game. Since they added the service in 2018. Thats the most clickbaity article I’ve ever seen. Especially when they guy they quote calls for the return of a system that also removed games from the library…
Seriously. I dont think nintendo are a good company, we all know how greedy they are and how aggressive they are with lawsuits etc. But you are purposfully exaggerating to drive home a point that just isn’t true.
I mentioned BOTW because you did. I was responding to you.
Man you kinda just suck at this and have completely proven my point. You don’t round bills down… have you done a budget before like a big boy? I can’t even take you seriously when you dance around some numbers bullshit lol. You’re paying for a monthly service to play a free emulator, justify it all you want.
I never replied to you, @samus12345@lemm.ee is who I replied too. You’ve decided to jump in and talk about BOTW lol
I literally linked you the exact program for the nintendo switch emulator, which you’ve paid hundreds of dollars for the “portability” of taking an emulator off a desktop (congrats! I don’t think it’s ever been done before…oh wait). The glitch shit just is false dichotomy that you’re stretching for.
Funny you mentioned Netflix but unironically used it as a positive example!!! Even though it’s enshittification and current state promotes piracy!!! hahaha and then just completely blow over the fact that yes…the first game was just removed a few days ago, and the version before literally lost a bunch of great games (do you really not get the message? You don’t own the game, they are not required to keep letting you play it)
It’s obvious you’re a happy-mindless consumer, everything you’ve said points more negative light on exactly why I wouldn’t pay for the service. You don’t think Nintendo is a good company, you think they’re greedy and aggressive, yet you’re completely ok with doing business with them. I think it’s a shit company with a shit service and you’re getting ripped off in more ways than one (financially,morally,technologically,socially).
If you’re actually serious about being a real consumer, put your money towards actual companies and developers you can feel good about. Here’s some examples listed, the best part is they’re not going to keep showing up every month to collect money from you! I guarantee you, your family would remember an awesome product from one of those companies 10x more than just playing a dumb ol’ switch like every pleb. Really just trying to give them the most basic corporate experience in life eh?
Ok… in terms of bills rounding up or down. If i am at a restaurant (to use your example) and someone says “what do i owe” and the amount is 34.17, i won’t tell them its 35. I will tell them its 34.17 but just give me 34. I wont tell them to give me more. That would be their choice. Why would you make someone else pay 0.83 more when it would only cost you 0.17 to round it off to an even number.
You want to call me a child because you think i dont know how to budget, based on you not understanding that 4.17 is not 5. It’s just not.
My credit score is near enough 1000 out of 1000, i pay a mortgage, i have a phone bill a car, gas, electric, council tax, vet bills, personal spends, school bills, savings etc no credit cards, small overdraft, not in use.
So yes. I budget… like a big boy. You condescending patronising jackass.
Yes, you replied to that other user, but your whole reply was about… wait for it… ME!
So i responded. And YOU brought up BOTW. So stop saying i brought it up.
There you go exaggerating again. “Hundreds of dollars”? I have been paying 1.25 a month for 4 years which is 60 not “hundreds” do you realise you are doing it? You are overstating almost everything you say which makes it seem more impactful than it actually is. Do you also think you have no money left when you actually have like, 100 dollars? Because you wildly overestimated how much you spend each month?
So you linked me to an emulator… great… what good does that do me when i need portability and i only have the switch with that function? I dont own a steam deck for example.
False dichotomy? Perhaps you need a dictonary as i think you have misunderstood the meaning of the word dichotomy. Roms having glitches is not a dichotomy… what is the other side of this dichotomy? What are you contrasting it with? And are you honestly saying you have ever found an emulator that can play conkers bad fur day eith no glitches? Because there isn’t one. The graphics packs aren’t up to it, and the roms are shoddy.
Perhaps you are trying to suggest that my stating that emulators are glitchy is not a reason to pay nintendo for one. Perhaps you are missing the fsct that i am already paying them for the online service for switch, and i wanted to mario kart expansion so even if i didnt also want the emulators, i would have them.
Perhaps you think everything should be free? As someone who rides the fine line between piracy and consumerism, i think some things should be free, but will pay for something if i find its more convenient. I dont care about paying 60 for 4 years of a glitchless emulator i can carry around with me. Just like i dont mind spending 60 on a single game i might get 20-100 hours of gameplay out of. I am sure you dont mind that either.
If its down to a cost benefit analysis, then I’ve done mine. And deemed it worth it.
Its funny how you ignored what i said about netflix, you saw the word and turned redder than the logo. I said that when they started the streaming service, most people pirating tv stopped. Because they offered a service that was more convenient and cheap enough that it wasnt worth pirating. I then stated that that has since changed as those factors wained. So what is your point? That you can’t read?
As for your summary of my mindless consumerism. Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror, you are blinded by your hatred of corporations and dont seem to realise that consumerism isnt inherently bad. Like with anything, at the extremes, it is horroble. Just like piracy. Nintendo might be a bad company, but the people who put in the effort to make the games, and the hardware, all of the work that goes into designing and developing these things that deserves fair compensation. I dont think i deserve that for free. I think i should have to pay for some things, because much to my dismay we dont live in a communist or even socialist world just yet.
Please take you antagonistic and arrogant stance somewhere else.
Wow, didn’t think you would take the victim stance so hard. Just to be clear, you’re saying I didn’t reply to you but I need to take my arrogant stance somewhere else? The instigator of this argument is telling me I’m antagonistic? hahahaha
You can lie all you want about your big-boy pants, the proof is in the pudding when you show your immaturity. You can’t even get the basics of this discussion right. “not only are you underselling the nintendo switch emulator, you are overselling emulators like dolphin etc.” if you don’t see the dichotomy you’ve created I don’t know how to solve what’s obviously a lifetime learning problem.
Let’s see, was there anything else you actually said? Hmm, now 34.17 is acceptably 34 but not 35 when budgeting bills, idk wtf you’re doing now. More company defending… made up anecdotal shit about your life I don’t believe… and you still don’t understand how subscription services work.
You can’t see the point of Netflix enshittification so you’re lost there, you think creators are being fairly compensated for the games on the nintendo emulator… lol it’s getting harder to address the BS as this goes on.
I don’t know how many times I can say this just for you to come back all huffy puffy again. “will pay for something if i find its more convenient. I dont care about paying,” Tell me more how you’re paying a monthly subscription for a free emulator and a mario kart expansion… 4 years, woah. That’s really just mindblowing. Let’s cut the bullshit and actually give real world examples.
No, absolutely not. When your Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion Pack membership expires, you lose access to all included DLC, N64 games, Genesis games, and other content.
You‘ll have 180 days after expiration to renew your membership and regain access to everything. But after 180 days, all of that content gets permanently removed unless you purchase the Expansion Pack subscription again. It‘s designed as a continual service rather than a one-time add-on purchase. You only keep the extra content as long as you keep paying for it.
Is the Expansion Pack Worth the Cost?
the value depends heavily on how much you actually play the included N64 and Genesis games. Many criticize these retro game libraries as lacking depth and variety, especially compared to Xbox Game Pass. You can also purchase Switch DLCs individually without the bundled Expansion Pack subscription. Here are normal prices for the major DLCs it includes:
Buying these one by one costs only $70 altogether – already less than a year of the subscription. And you‘ll own them permanently rather than temporarily renting with a subscription.
Your cost/benefit analysis is biased and flawed. Like you glossed over before, here are some examples of handheld emulators you won’t lose when you decide to stop paying. They have more games and will last longer, better companies and progressive consumerism (I’m advocating for positive consumerism, not blind purchases). Best part is you’ll actually save some money in the long run, I think we can stop pretending now that other people in the plan and your children are helping pay the bill at this point lol.
That’s $4.17 a month. It’s even cheaper if you get a family account and share with your family and / or friends like i do. (I am actually UK, but it seems the US price is the most quoted.) And comes with all the n64 (and the new gamecube) games. Its the cheapest online service of the three main consoles.
Also, to be clear. Im not a big switch guy, and i think nintendo are a greedy company. I mostly play playstation these days but my switch is handy and there are some amazing first party games.
…on top of all the other “It’s only $X!” subscription services out there. If it’s the ONLY subscription you have, sure, that’s not bad, but how common is that?
person just unironically said they pay nintendo 5 bucks a month for the privilege to play a curated list of 40 year old games you can quite literally find anywhere online. That’s 60$ a year to access an emulator they probably have less than 10 hours of playtime on. There’s just really no justification for Nintendo anymore, BOTW broke me and I had to be talked into it.
There are other perks, but most of them feel like problems they’re creating and then selling you the solution to rather than genuine value.
Ok. Let’s not misrepresent what i said.
Firstly, you dont round up 4.17 to 5.
Second. I said i am in the UK, so i dont bay any dollars a month.
Third, I pay for 1 quarter of £5 a month, which is the monthly cost of a family account. Which i said i have. So it’s actually £1.25 ($1.64) a month.
Forth, The games that come with the expansio are not 40 years old.the expansion gives you the n64, gameboy advance and genesis games, which are 28, 23 and 35 years old respectively.
Fifth, as well that i get 48 mario kart maps, as well ss some other games. On top of the online play which you get in the standard pack, and some other bits.
Sixth, i have played and completed mario 64 and bajo kazooie on the n64 emulator. I have introduced my son to mario kart 64 as well. I also am slowly working my way through jet force gemini. I have complete goldeneye played multiplayer with my brothers here and there and am working through perfect dark. On the GBA emulator i am playing golden sun. 10 hours is a severe underestimate for all that and more.
Finally. If you are salty about BOTW, then thats your problem. But dont go around lying about what i said to make yourself feel better.
Good lord, you’re actually gonna come down and try to defend your actions like some kind of corporate propagandist. Fucking sad really how you’ve got it all twisted. SOMEONE IS PAYING FOR THE SERVICE! I don’t care how many people are listed and aren’t using it, YOU’RE STILL PAYING FOR A YEARLY SUBSCRIPTION FOR A FUCKING ONLINE EMULATOR. Where the fuck was a lie made? Care to misrepresent some more shit?
It’s 4.17 not 5? I should take that as my first clue you’re not serious. People round up to 5 for meals all the time, this is such a strange thing to start on.
Nintendo confirms Switch Online retro game removal in US and Europe
for 1-6, you’re paying a rental subscription service to play an emulator… just type emulator into a search engine, go to one of the hundreds of sites. Hell, go to archive.org and get the official nintendo online emulator pack.
Here’s your mariokart, here’s your banjo.
Guess what?!?! I’m not gonna charge you a fucking penny and I’m not gonna log onto your device and remove your data!! You’re welcome!!
(don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about BOTW for, it was an example that nintendo is making shittier products and can’t be relied upon anymore if their flagship game can’t even run properly on the console, keep making an ass of yourself though)
4.17 is closer to 4 not 5. I dont care if you spend more on meals than you owe because you dont see that. I was only pointing out that you rounded up the cost to emphasise a point that is invalid because i am not even paying 4.17, let alone 5 a month. So yeah i am gonna defend myself when, like i said, i am actually paying 1.25 (or 5 by your logic. Or would it be 0 because 1.25 rounds down to 0 in your world)
The lie you made is the price i am paying, what you get for the monthly cost. Again, you dont round down online access, multiple game expansions and a list of old games to just some old emulators.
You are purposfully ignoring features and increasing the price to make it seem like you are more rightm its dishonest and childish.
I have used emulators since the no$cash game boy emulator. For the most part they are good. But they dont play all games perfectly. Like banjo is full of glitches and crashes when emulated. Same for mario 64. Same for goldeneye. So not only are you underselling the nintendo switch emulator, you are overselling emulators like dolphin etc.
I appreciate the convenience of taking the emulated games away from the desktop due to the switches portability and if its costing me less than the proce of a cup of coffee per month then i would happily pay for the convenience. Its like netflix when iflt first came along. It beat piracy because it was cheap and convenient. Now that its so expensive the piracy starts again.
Did you just link to an article to show that they are removing games which actually just shows they removed 1 game. Since they added the service in 2018. Thats the most clickbaity article I’ve ever seen. Especially when they guy they quote calls for the return of a system that also removed games from the library…
Seriously. I dont think nintendo are a good company, we all know how greedy they are and how aggressive they are with lawsuits etc. But you are purposfully exaggerating to drive home a point that just isn’t true.
I mentioned BOTW because you did. I was responding to you.
Wtf? Are you for real?
Man you kinda just suck at this and have completely proven my point. You don’t round bills down… have you done a budget before like a big boy? I can’t even take you seriously when you dance around some numbers bullshit lol. You’re paying for a monthly service to play a free emulator, justify it all you want.
I never replied to you, @samus12345@lemm.ee is who I replied too. You’ve decided to jump in and talk about BOTW lol
I literally linked you the exact program for the nintendo switch emulator, which you’ve paid hundreds of dollars for the “portability” of taking an emulator off a desktop (congrats! I don’t think it’s ever been done before…oh wait). The glitch shit just is false dichotomy that you’re stretching for.
Funny you mentioned Netflix but unironically used it as a positive example!!! Even though it’s enshittification and current state promotes piracy!!! hahaha and then just completely blow over the fact that yes…the first game was just removed a few days ago, and the version before literally lost a bunch of great games (do you really not get the message? You don’t own the game, they are not required to keep letting you play it)
It’s obvious you’re a happy-mindless consumer, everything you’ve said points more negative light on exactly why I wouldn’t pay for the service. You don’t think Nintendo is a good company, you think they’re greedy and aggressive, yet you’re completely ok with doing business with them. I think it’s a shit company with a shit service and you’re getting ripped off in more ways than one (financially,morally,technologically,socially).
If you’re actually serious about being a real consumer, put your money towards actual companies and developers you can feel good about. Here’s some examples listed, the best part is they’re not going to keep showing up every month to collect money from you! I guarantee you, your family would remember an awesome product from one of those companies 10x more than just playing a dumb ol’ switch like every pleb. Really just trying to give them the most basic corporate experience in life eh?
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Ok… in terms of bills rounding up or down. If i am at a restaurant (to use your example) and someone says “what do i owe” and the amount is 34.17, i won’t tell them its 35. I will tell them its 34.17 but just give me 34. I wont tell them to give me more. That would be their choice. Why would you make someone else pay 0.83 more when it would only cost you 0.17 to round it off to an even number.
You want to call me a child because you think i dont know how to budget, based on you not understanding that 4.17 is not 5. It’s just not.
My credit score is near enough 1000 out of 1000, i pay a mortgage, i have a phone bill a car, gas, electric, council tax, vet bills, personal spends, school bills, savings etc no credit cards, small overdraft, not in use.
So yes. I budget… like a big boy. You condescending patronising jackass.
Yes, you replied to that other user, but your whole reply was about… wait for it… ME!
So i responded. And YOU brought up BOTW. So stop saying i brought it up.
There you go exaggerating again. “Hundreds of dollars”? I have been paying 1.25 a month for 4 years which is 60 not “hundreds” do you realise you are doing it? You are overstating almost everything you say which makes it seem more impactful than it actually is. Do you also think you have no money left when you actually have like, 100 dollars? Because you wildly overestimated how much you spend each month?
So you linked me to an emulator… great… what good does that do me when i need portability and i only have the switch with that function? I dont own a steam deck for example.
False dichotomy? Perhaps you need a dictonary as i think you have misunderstood the meaning of the word dichotomy. Roms having glitches is not a dichotomy… what is the other side of this dichotomy? What are you contrasting it with? And are you honestly saying you have ever found an emulator that can play conkers bad fur day eith no glitches? Because there isn’t one. The graphics packs aren’t up to it, and the roms are shoddy.
Perhaps you are trying to suggest that my stating that emulators are glitchy is not a reason to pay nintendo for one. Perhaps you are missing the fsct that i am already paying them for the online service for switch, and i wanted to mario kart expansion so even if i didnt also want the emulators, i would have them.
Perhaps you think everything should be free? As someone who rides the fine line between piracy and consumerism, i think some things should be free, but will pay for something if i find its more convenient. I dont care about paying 60 for 4 years of a glitchless emulator i can carry around with me. Just like i dont mind spending 60 on a single game i might get 20-100 hours of gameplay out of. I am sure you dont mind that either.
If its down to a cost benefit analysis, then I’ve done mine. And deemed it worth it.
Its funny how you ignored what i said about netflix, you saw the word and turned redder than the logo. I said that when they started the streaming service, most people pirating tv stopped. Because they offered a service that was more convenient and cheap enough that it wasnt worth pirating. I then stated that that has since changed as those factors wained. So what is your point? That you can’t read?
As for your summary of my mindless consumerism. Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror, you are blinded by your hatred of corporations and dont seem to realise that consumerism isnt inherently bad. Like with anything, at the extremes, it is horroble. Just like piracy. Nintendo might be a bad company, but the people who put in the effort to make the games, and the hardware, all of the work that goes into designing and developing these things that deserves fair compensation. I dont think i deserve that for free. I think i should have to pay for some things, because much to my dismay we dont live in a communist or even socialist world just yet.
Please take you antagonistic and arrogant stance somewhere else.
Wow, didn’t think you would take the victim stance so hard. Just to be clear, you’re saying I didn’t reply to you but I need to take my arrogant stance somewhere else? The instigator of this argument is telling me I’m antagonistic? hahahaha
You can lie all you want about your big-boy pants, the proof is in the pudding when you show your immaturity. You can’t even get the basics of this discussion right. “not only are you underselling the nintendo switch emulator, you are overselling emulators like dolphin etc.” if you don’t see the dichotomy you’ve created I don’t know how to solve what’s obviously a lifetime learning problem.
Let’s see, was there anything else you actually said? Hmm, now 34.17 is acceptably 34 but not 35 when budgeting bills, idk wtf you’re doing now. More company defending… made up anecdotal shit about your life I don’t believe… and you still don’t understand how subscription services work.
You can’t see the point of Netflix enshittification so you’re lost there, you think creators are being fairly compensated for the games on the nintendo emulator… lol it’s getting harder to address the BS as this goes on.
I don’t know how many times I can say this just for you to come back all huffy puffy again. “will pay for something if i find its more convenient. I dont care about paying,” Tell me more how you’re paying a monthly subscription for a free emulator and a mario kart expansion… 4 years, woah. That’s really just mindblowing. Let’s cut the bullshit and actually give real world examples.
NINTENDO SWITCH FAMILY PLAN - $79.99 yearly subscription (FROM THE WEBSITE) (86$ish x 4= $344!)
Do You Keep DLC After Expansion Pack Expires?
Is the Expansion Pack Worth the Cost?
Your cost/benefit analysis is biased and flawed. Like you glossed over before, here are some examples of handheld emulators you won’t lose when you decide to stop paying. They have more games and will last longer, better companies and progressive consumerism (I’m advocating for positive consumerism, not blind purchases). Best part is you’ll actually save some money in the long run, I think we can stop pretending now that other people in the plan and your children are helping pay the bill at this point lol.
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Thats quite reasonable tbh thanks for answering!