The claim has a non linked URL where they compare the performance of a core i3 6th gen from a decade ago (presumably with 4gb ram) with a core ultra 5 just out (presumably with quadruple the RAM)

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    10 days ago

    I’ve seen gamers do this exact same thing when they say NVME drives load games an order of magnitude quicker than the SATA SSDs they were using.

    Never do they mention that the NVME drive was in an entirely new PC using a much better CPU…

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      10 days ago

      SATA 600MB/S

      NVME 3500MB/S

      Maybe not an order of magnitude faster, but at least 5x faster…

      Don’t @ me about the numbers, just did a quick search for their read speeds.

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        10 days ago

        Right, now load the same game onto each and measure the load times.

        Depending on the game, one will be like 6 seconds and the slow drive will be like 6.2

        Because most game loading is CPU bound.

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    11 days ago

    They’re technically not wrong. It’s 3x faster at stealing your data, so it’s 3x as faster at something.

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    11 days ago

    “Just buy a new computer bro; hear me out, Windows 11 is what you need, j-ust j-ust justone more computer.”

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      11 days ago

      “Stop it Morty! Microsoft just wants to sell licenses to hardware vendors, don’t you see it you, you, you stupid little btch. It’s a conglomerate, Morty!”

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    windows 11 is 3 times faster than windows 10

    Yes, it’s true. It took me 3 times as fast to know that it’s shit.

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    11 days ago

    The world would be a lot better if liars suffered an unrecoverable reputational hit for lying.

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    11 days ago

    That’s incredibly stupid. Genuinely one of the worst comparisons by a large company in the last few years, and we just had the Nvidia fake frames scandal.

    Is this claim local, or do they do this across markets?

    Would be helpful to have a link.

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        Windows 11 PCs are up to 2.3x faster than Windows 10 PCs

        Based on testing performed by Microsoft in December 2024 using Geekbench 6 Multi-core score comparing a selection of Windows 10 PCs with Intel Core 6th, 8th, and 10th generation processors and Windows 11 PCs with Intel Core 12th and 13th generation processors. Performance will vary significantly by device and with settings, usage and other factors.

        I mean… okay? Pretty sure that has very little to do with the OS at that point. That’s kind of like saying the PS5 is faster than the PS4 – yeah, I’m upgrading hardware, of course it’s faster. Kinda surprised they only got 2.3x with that basis of comparison.

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          10 days ago

          “this is our best product yet”
          yeah i’d fucking hope so, otherwise why the fuck are you making a new version?

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      11 days ago

      The difference in performance from a Intel 11th gen and Intel 12th gen, with the same amount of memory and the CPU in the same class, is not measurable in daily life. The average for w10 devices is skewed to the bottom, and it’s also a comparison that doesn’t make sense. Of course a computer from ten years ago is slower. I would be surprised if it wouldn’t be like that.

      They wanted to do a comparison like Apple “M1 is 4x faster than our previous Intel laptop” but at least apple says which exact benchmark uses and it’s directly compared to the previous model on sale, not a random one from a decade ago (although Apple always chooses some useless benchmark like calculating integers or other stuff that has absolutely no impact in real life but has a higher result).

      Here Microsoft says “Web browsing is up to 3.2x faster” but we all know that RAM heavily influences web browsing. How much memory the chosen sample has? They don’t say it and I suspect they’re comparing 4/8gb devices vs 16/32gb devices

      Same for “Ms office is up to 2x times faster” but we all know that the difference is invisible in real use. Probably the w10 sample have sata HDDs (especially that i3-6100) while the w11 sample they all have nvme pcie gen 4 x4 drives so of course they load Microsoft word much faster.

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      Right, so different boards, ssd chips, ram generations, even the displays make a difference since newer panels are more efficient on average. Absolutely inexcusable.

      Btw among the W10 devices they even put an Intel “Y”, a cpu with 3.5-7W TDP 😂. I have one of those and it’s the worse computer I ever used, recently revived with CachyOS because thankfully it has the x86v3 instructions (=it’s not too old)

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    11 days ago

    It definitely is depending on what you’re measuring. I’ve personally seen at least three times more people pushed to Linux each month since Windows 11 was released. Probably more. Windows 11 is the fastest Windows version at creating new Linux users, easily.

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      10 days ago

      Agreed, Windows 10 pushed me to dabble in Linux, Windows 11 pushed me to update my home server, lappys and gaming desktop all to Linux.

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      I saw a lot more “I’m converting immediately” posts after win 8 tbh, and I wasn’t even on Lemmy surrounded by the most hardcore Linux devotees this side of slashdot. 2012 wasn’t the year of the Linux desktop and 2025 won’t be either. There won’t be a year of the Linux desktop until OEMs start shipping it by default on new hardware.

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          That’s true but we’re far from critical mass. I will say the steam deck has done more than any other single innovation in the 25 someodd years I’ve been paying attention to this stuff.

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      11 days ago

      Same hardware.

      It seems to be principally due to lower latency (less time looking for stuff in RAM or HD) and improved power management.

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        11 days ago

        I actually had to test this with my hardware, Win11 is atrocious. I don’t have exact numbers, but Win11 uses so much more RAM for itself that it’s really noticeable how it just gets slower so much faster when I open stuff.

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          On the one hand, using more RAM leaves less room for your stuff.

          On the other hand, unused RAM doesn’t do anything for you.

          So Windows 11 may actually be faster with sufficient RAM, but it’s gonna leave nothing for your applications.