As open source as Android is, it is very difficult to find a decent browser, let alone one that is privacy focused and also usable on daily.

  • Almost all web searches point to site that shows stuff like : Chrome, Edge, Opera…etc. So this doesnt help.

  • Play Store is full of shitty browsers. If you skip the usual DDG, Chrome, Edge, Opera…etc then you will see either:

a) browsers from random Chinese company (Via, UC Browser)

or b) browser that is coupled with other products, e.g. a video downloader with built in browser.

  • After the recent fiasco with Firefox and their ToS, I saw a lot of posts saying IronFox / Water Fox is better. I’ve never heard of these Foxes variants before.

So I tried the following on Android:

  • DDG: only good if you do basic search. It lacks a good adblocker. So very annoying if you are on a site with shit tons of popups.

  • Brave: not a fan of the in your face AI tools. Overall it works ok though

  • The Foxes variants: IronFox seems to be very good on privacy. It has its own DNS and most of the security is on by default. However, same as all Foxes, IronFox just doesnt play well on Android. There is a slight lag when you try to switch tabs.

  • TOR: This would be the safest. But the poorest in terms of usability.

  • Chrome w/o account or Chrome run from private space. Surprisingly, Chrome is still the one browser that runs the smoothest…

Any input is appreciated.

  • FriendBesto@lemmy.ml
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    Librewolf on PC, or Tor, if you want to go full on; And Ironfox on Android. Use LibRedirect as a search provider and if you use Searxing, it will rotate all your searches to different instances every time.

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    Glad to hear Brave isn’t awful. I haven’t tried it as I’m trying to avoid Chrome entirely for now.

    I’ve been using IceRaven/Mull on a very old (out of support) LG phone, and I’m not sure I entirely understand the “pauses” thing? I don’t see meaningful pauses when I switch tabs, other than the page reloading if it was purged from RAM. But like. That happens in Safari on iOS on a brand new phone, too, so it’s not entirely an Android-specific complaint.

    Honestly, all mobile browsers are UI train-wrecks of one kind or another. For me it was this exact process of elimination to decide which I like least, and then from there deciding which inflict the fewest paper cuts. For me, FF sync (settings mostly, but also tab sets) was more important than whatever memory problems Mozilla rebrands might have. :(

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    • Tor browser for anonymous/private regular browsing (without logging into personally-identifiable accounts)
    • Vanadium (GrapheneOS’ Chromium-based browser, maybe it’s usable on non-GrapheneOS as well?) in combination with a good crap-blocking DNS server
    • Brave is decent but has some bad default settings, can probably be configured to behave well (similar to regular Firefox)
    • Firefox + forks are generally not that great (at least on Android?) because their sandboxing capabilities (and maybe other security features) are weaker compared to those of Chromium-based browsers. See also: https://grapheneos.org/usage#web-browsing
    • Commercial browsers like Chrome, Edge, Opera, and so on all contain loads of on-by-default-spyware and should never be used
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    It sounds like you’ve come to the correct conclusion that no browser is best. I use Brave.

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      DuckDuckGo Browser is a webview browser which has weaker tab isolation and uses the system’s default webview implementation, most often chrome webview.

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        Huh, that’s unfortunate. I see a lot of recommendations for Fennec and Ironfox a fair amount and use regular firefox on desktop, maybe I should check those out. Is there one you recommend?

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    Compartmentalize, you don’t need to use the same browser for everything.

    Fennec on Fdroid + uBlock Origin for Youtube, everyday browsing, through a VPN (split tunnel) to a privacy-friendly country

    Chrome for the “normie” stuff, like banking, making purchases, taxes, government stuff, since those likely break on firefox-like browsers, and those are tied to identity anyways, no need to hide anything. Chrome goes through my real IP (cuz transactions would fail if make over a VPN)

    Tor Browser for Lemmy (bypasses VPN, because using both VPN + Tor is practically unusable, too slow, just Tor is good enough)

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    I use Cromite. It’s a more hardened fork of Bromite. Which itself is a hardened fork of Chromium.

    The only thing I’ve found so far is that it likes to block the discussion threads on some websites. But other than that I’ve had no issues whatsoever.

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    Currently on mobile I run DDG for primary uses, and Tor browser occasionally when I want extra privacy, but it is too slow to use for everything. DDG is fine IMO. It’s simple and I like the default “always incognito” approach it has. I have no issues using their search and tend to avoid sites littered with ads anyway.

    I refuse to use any chromium descended browser anymore, so stuff like Brave is out. I would be interested in migrating to some libre-like version of firefox, but haven’t figured out what that would be yet from the options that are out there. I would want something that can let me always be incognito, block all trackers, not store history or cookies, etc… so basically DDG.