I think her argument was that religion offered an easy way to make moral choices.
Someone that fucked Elon should really keep ideas about morality out of their fucking mouth
Elon doesn’t fuck, his dick is a bent twig. He has them fucked by mail order.
There was just a case where a woman gave birth to a baby in the woods, left it there and left for a vacation. If it weren’t for the family dog desperately trying to save the baby and getting noticed by a stranger, nobody would have ever known as even the rest of the family was defensive of the woman.
This shows morality is not only not an exclusively trait but not even an exclusively human trait.
I am not sure that I agree that the dog’s behavior necessarily demonstrates “morality.” You might be anthropomorphizing a bit. I am not a biologist or anything, so I could be way off base… But is it not possible that the dog was acting on instincts to protect newborn offspring? Similar to when animals “adopt” babies from other species as their own?
Morality implies that the dog did a thing because it’s “the right thing to do,” when in reality, it might have just been a self-preservation instinct kicking in. Dog sees newborn that’s clearly the offspring of the being that takes care of it, dog tries to preserve that newborn’s life in order to keep the gravy train going.
Just my (again, non-expert) thoughts.
Zealots judging by the news coming out of america do not care about such trivial details as “facts”, “medical science” and “behavioral science”. It is unnecessary for them to take that into consideration.
You can remove the argument from morality safely from your answer just by stating the dog acted upon instinct, based off the notion dogs are pack animals, that have a closely knit symbiotic relatioship with human, which can be used to in favour of the dog finding a newborn activated the instinct of preserving their pack.
The way you approached the subject can be easily side tracked through arguing you are atributting self interest to the animals actions, as in, it keeps the newborn alive, thus, their own preservation is assured.
If acting on true self interest, the dog should have allowed the newborn to die.
Side note: who discards a newborn in such calous way? How unbalanced is the person?
If acting on true self interest, the dog should have allowed the newborn to die.
That’s not necessarily true. No more human offspring means no more symbiotic relationship.
No offspring, closer symbiotic relationship, with more resources available.
Maybe… We’re probably overthinking it and it’s just a “protect baby” instinct.
Do you have source?
If fear of divine retribution is your only reason for being a good person, then you are not a good person.
Having a god reign over some heads is a useful tool against those who don’t share the same values, but fear the existence of a higher power.
As always, it’s about lacking control and the frustration that comes with.
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How odd… You’re not the first person who’s told me that Catbox links aren’t working either, I wonder what’s up with that.
Anyways, I’ve changed the link so hopefully it’ll load now.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
Emphasis my own. Yes there is a self evident morality, you don’t need God to tell you what’s right and wrong.
To be fair, they’re also saying that it’s self-evident that our rights are given to us by a “creator”. Which isn’t true.
Your mama didn’t give you rights?
Shame and peer pressure are outsourcing ethics and never independently developing character. The moment one can get away with anything without getting caught, the lack of real ethics becomes apparent. No one but an absolute fool believes in someone they have never seen or spoken too as a real form of accountability. There is always a measure of cognitive dissonance that arises from this failure of objective thinking.
Shame cannot produce a positive outcome. It only results in negativity. Religion is only a form of austere social networking that relies on isolation for reinforcement. None of this produces real ethics. It only produces the ethics required to participate in an isolated social network. The outsourcing of ethics and isolation of the social network are why such criminal and unethical behavior emerges from within these primitive tribal structures. The structures are built upon dogma and tribalism which makes them easy to manipulate from within the tribe but impossible from the outside. There is no foundation of logic or reason, so opposing any such person with logic and reason is pointless and will only cause the opposing person to become labelled as “others” and not part of the trusted tribe.
The most disgusting and primitive human trait is dogma because dogma is irrational, it is ruthless, it is authoritarian, it is deadly, it is the inner primate animal pulling sentience back into the depths of instinct and animal nature.
People always told me that Grimes was super smart, but every time she opens her mouth, it’s some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard. She is the guy we all knew in high school, the one who takes mushrooms and stares at Tool album covers, and expects the rest of us to pretend they are brilliant.
This chick literally wrote an open letter to communists, saying that if they support Elon Musk, he will use AI to bring a communist system.
If she were to ever shut up, it may dawn on her that she is actually a fucking idiot, and we can’t have that, so she never shuts the fuck up.
So… a female Joe Rogan, essentially?
If she were to ever shut up, it may dawn on her that she is actually a fucking idiot, and we can’t have that, so she never shuts the fuck up.
"It is worth repeating at this point the theories that Ford had come up with, on his first encounter with human beings, to account for their peculiar habit of continually stating and restating the very very obvious, as in “It’s a nice day,” or “You’re very tall,” or “So this is it, we’re going to die.”
His first theory was that if human beings didn’t keep exercising their lips, their mouths probably shriveled up.
After a few months of observation he had come up with a second theory, which was this–“If human beings don’t keep exercising their lips, their brains start working.”
Is that Vonnegut?
Hitchhikers Guide
Also good!
She’s very good and talented at music, and I stand behind that. But as you’ll know if you see anything about personal lives of musicians, it doesn’t automatically make her good at anything else.
Oh believe you me, I 100% stand by the first 10 years of Kanye, and artists’ don’t have the right to ruin nostalgia for our youth. We are not obligated to stand by old men or women just because they did cool things in their youth.
fuck that elon breeder
There are good things that are less intuitive about eg. Christian values such as forgiveness. You get as many chances as you need and are still worth saving no matter what you have done wrong.
I mean sure, but that’s not exclusive to Christianity; forgiveness can be learned anywhere, including through lived experience. Yes Christianity features forgiveness prominently, but it also prominently features fish and certainly you don’t think you can only acquire seafood from the pious.
So practically you can appreciate and accept the philosophical lessons offered by Christianity while still rejecting the Christianity of it all in the same way that you can appreciate and endorse live music by buying tickets through Ticketmaster while also criticizing Ticketmaster for all of the awfulness they unnecessarily bring into the concert-going experience.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish
No matter what?
Yes.
Separate the deed from the dude. Provide psychological help and enable them to be better.
Did you read the letter he sent?
Faith without works* is dead, according to James.
If we can kill God, then it wasn’t God that we killed…
This is the fact that is so often overlooked because its too goddamn inconvenient for them to acknowledge.
God is the all-powerful creator of the universe, all of the black holes and quasars, all of the laws of physics, the architect of the very Beginning and End of All Things… but He is in constant danger of destruction by a bunch of hippies and nerds.
manic nazi dream girl
I think zealot answered that. It seems that people who can’t manage themselves and their worst impulse want to manage others.
Grimes and musk believe the AI is God. So there’s a good chance context is missing here on purpose because she’s aware enough to not go full crazy.
Bring back God = build the AI.
The archetypes, best, worst and middling, are those parts of ourselves, so I can kind of see that. I’m fairly sure that’s not what they mean by it, but I could be wrong. People can agree on basic premise and have wildly varying ideas of the implications, such as regular people who hi to church, temple and mosque and basically try to be decent to everyone, and those who wield religion like a cudgel.
Eta, just saying I’m fairly sure i don’t agree their implications, maybe not the actual premise. I realize it was murky.
TBF, an overgrown autocorrect is more real to me than god, and in my opinion it’s the more sane option to worship.
they don’t believe in god, so there’s no belief in AI.
let me sum it up for you in a few words imagine they are the thoughts of our oppressors.
I am a god.
The way i understood it was that it’s a difference in organization of society. Some people can find meaning themselves, without needing somebody else to tell them what to do. Some people just need to be told what to do.
Some people find their meaning in telling others what to do.
