I have an enterprise account and they added this button today. Guess what used to be there? The profile image where you could so conveniently swipe up or down to switch between gmail accounts. This is the kind of UI garbage that makes you want to move your entire company to another service just because you can.
Apparently they can’t roll out Gemini to my phone because I never gave them my birthday. It’s a really old account and they’ve been sending me notifications to add my birthday for years.
I’m in the same boat. Keep getting android popups like IMPORTANT ACCOUNT NOTIFICATION YOU HAVE TO ADD YOUR BIRTHDAY no I don’t fuck you swipe away.
It’s for the best, I used to ask Google assistant for alarms and basic searches sometimes, Gemini gives excruciatingly long responses that won’t shut up and recently started responding with things from my past emails assumingly from the Gmail account needed to set up the phone. So now I don’t have Google assistant, and will no longer search anything with Gemini out of principle. Need a new phone OS it appears
If you are willing to forego Google Pay, I strongly recommend GrapheneOS.
Very much this. I really dislike my pixel 6 pro (i don’t understand the immense hype it got but, whatever), however, i will be getting another pixel when this dies just so i can use GrapheneOS. So good
Yeah, I have a 7 pro and it seems more like top of mid-tier device rather than a flagship, but I got it for GrapheneOS and will buy Pixel again just because of it.
Had the 6 Pro, 7 Pro, 8 Pro, and now 9 Pro
I feel like the 8 Pro is the best of that series, but I don’t have hard evidence to explain why
I accidentally triggered Gemini while taking a close-up photo of something in my hand. It threw up a nearly full-screen “how can I help?” message. I muttered “fuck off”, and the message now read, “I’m sorry you feel that way…” Oh my god no. NO. Gemini now disabled.
It can’t control its personality either. So when you say something like “set an alarm for 5:30am”, and it hears you wrong you say, “Set An Alarm For 5 30 AM”. Slowing down and annunciating. Then it responds Oh Kay repeating your cadence as if it needs to annunciate to you because you don’t understand, haha. Every time someone has heard it around me as been like, wow, that’s a sassy bitch.
K-9 mail/Thunderbird Mail
Not totally Foss but I don’t think it is bad. I just like k-9 better.
move
To who?
I use Tuta. It works decently well.
Wait on Proton for a hot minute. The CEO just came out with a pretty polarizing statement, I would wait until we see how that unfolds over the next few weeks.
I did not know that and could not find anythimg online do you mind posting a link with more Info?
https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/116033c0-8f08-40cf-b5ea-a384724420d7.webp
the CEO tweeted in favor of trump, saying the republicans are the party of the “little guy” now
afterwards the proton team came out with a since-deleted statement in support of their CEO
Posteo is pretty damn good, too.
I saw a Copilot prompt in MS PowerPoint today - top left corner of EVERY SINGLE SLIDE - and I had a quiet fit in my cubicle. Welcome to hell.
Ah yes, the slop button. Truly the pinnacle of productivity.
Agree this is shit UX but…
How am I just now discovering you can do the swipe to change accounts
Yeah I used to go in the menu and click the other accounts one at a time until a friend showed me. Its this and removing the youtube click to add to queue popup that drive me bananas. They both worked so well why would you change it?
Same with the open tab number/button in Firefox mobile (and its derivatives). Swipe left/right on that button.
I replaced gmail with fairemail for similar reasons. I can’t stand their interface, designed to maximise clicks on the wrong locations.
Main problem is that now google requires developers of email clients to give $4000 in annual fees (level 3? or level 2 for just $500 is enough?) at their friends at KPMG to do yearly audits of the code, so they will kill most alternatives in few years now that oauth is mandatory
Main problem is that now google requires developers of email clients to give $4000 in annual fees
Does this mean K9 will have to pay Google to support adding gmail accounts?
Need to pay an auditor to check the code https://support.google.com/cloud/answer/13465431?hl=en
What a bunch of wankers
I used to use FairEmail, and IMO it’s one of the best email clients available on any platform, but it started acting weird as my account got larger. Taking forever to sync, not sending emails (just keeping them in the outbox), etc. I switched to K9 Mail, which has now become Thunderbird for Android.
Main problem is that now google requires developers of email clients to give $4000 in annual fees (level 3? or level 2 for just $500 is enough?) at their friends at KPMG to do yearly audits of the code
On one hand, I think audits are a reasonable idea. Some of the most sensitive data is in people’s emails, and most accounts can have their passwords reset via email. You really wouldn’t want malicious code touching that stuff. On the other hand, that’s definitely a large expense for an open source project :/
I’m glad some providers are moving towards OAuth or OIDC for logging in to email. Regular auth is very outdated and doesn’t support two-factor auth. It’ll just take a while to get there.
for FOSS projects, google itself could sponsor the certification, if they really cared about security and not just closing the garden. The code is public and they could definitely write automated tests to check all they need to check, and at every single commit, and not just yearly, done in secret by some auditor.
For google drive integration, i saw that most devs are just removing support for it because doesn’t make sense to pay $500 yearly to support it when there’s a million of better alternatives
The code is public and they could definitely write automated tests to check all they need to check, and at every single commit
The other thing they’d need to verify is that the app that’s uploaded to the Play Store or whatever other platform it’s on matches the code, which can be hard to deal if the build isn’t reproducible (that is, if every build produces a binary that differs in some way, like if there’s a timestamp embedded in it). This is one reason I like F-Droid - F-Droid build and package the apps on their end, so you can guarantee that the compiled app matches the source code.
For google drive integration, i saw that most devs are just removing support for it
I’ve worked on both sides of this (a big tech company providing an API to access data, and a smaller company or open source project utilizing said API) so I understand both arguments.
In addition to cost, there’s also complexity, as often the big tech company’s compliance issues/requirements become the small developer’s compliance requirements too. For example, there can be issues with storing data from European users outside of the EU, you may need a terms of service or privacy policy that explains what you do with the data, you may need to handle erasing the data if the user deletes their Google account, etc. Other companies like Facebook have similar concerns, and the Facebook Graph API is relatively restrictive as a result (to prevent third party apps from abusing data, like what happened with Cambridge Analytica).
All of that adds a lot of overhead for people that are just creating small apps and want easy integrations.
It’s on my desktop Gmail and I’ve been having a shitty time trying to disable it and remove it.
Literally asked Gemini how to remove Gemini and it said it did not know, then I called it stupid, and then it apologised and said I can remove Gemini in the Gmail settings, but I couldn’t find the option after yelling at it in all caps and it’s still there just taunting me
It must be infuriating to work for whoever makes these decisions. I don’t think I would ever actually email them about anything because there’d be no way I could possibly trust that the reply I get is actually something they wrote
for fun ask gemini if water freezes at 20 degrees
“adding a feature” = “forcing”
The profile image is still there, right beside the gemini button, and you can still swipe on it.
Well I didn’t ask for this and I pay them for this and multiple accounts. If it wasn’t forced there would be a setting to turn it off
Delete your Google account already
Um, the profile icon is just slightly to the left now. Or did you mean something else?
In my non-enterprise accounts the profile pic is exactly where the Gemini is now. So I flip thru them and it moves back and forth. Just real dumb. They could have added the Gemini button inside the search bar and I could have kept ignoring it.
Ohh. I use a separate phone for work so I didn’t notice that. Yeah search bar would’ve been a better spot for sure.
Gemini? The Teletext-alike web?
Better than when they switched sides in the play store and my thumb couldn’t reach the check for updates :(
Hey Google.
I still can’t create folders in the Android Gmail app. But somehow you had time for this?
“I’m sorry, I don’t know how to help with that”
It gets worse. If you have “smart features and personalization” turned off for your Gmail account, which I do, you can’t even ask Gemini anything. Not even to get the inevitably wrong answer.
But this still doesn’t remove the damn button for it from the corner of your screen.
Yeah that was the first thing I checked too as I was certain I disabled it all. Hopefully Gemini goes the same path as countless other Google products
Gemini: “to create a folder, right click on the desktop, select new, them select folder. When the folder icon appears, type the name you want for your new folder.”
Me: No… in Gmail!
Gemini: “Gmail is a google service for emails”
Me: No! How do I create folders in Gmail??
Gemini: “Email folders are a great way to sort and organize your emails into easily searchable categories.”
Me: Never mind. Thanks for nothing.
Gemini:
