Chrome is one of the first things I disable on my Android devices, and I hate the idea of signing up for any accounts just to access local files.
But Canon welcomed me with a big surprise, and a fuck you, too!
Canon is on my personal blacklist for decades. I bought a printer from them, not just a normal A4/legal, but a professional, wide one that uses rolls of paper, etc. I was unhappy with the state of the driver under Linux, so I called and asked for a programming documentation to write my own printer driver. Their opinion on Linux/open source was that “open source is theft of intellectual property”.
Their opinion is stupid, but I’m also not sure what you expected when you asked some random sales rep for deep technical info.
I contacted both technical support for commercial systems and later their booth on a big technical trade fair (CeBit Hannover), and got basically the same opinion both times. The first was definitely no “Sales Rep”, and the people at the booth were a manager and an engineer.
But I agree, their opinion is stupid.
Well, in a commercial space, at least if you’re big enough, asking sales reps for deep tech info is the norm. They are supposed to find an engineer and get them to answer.
If you’re a big enough customer, you set the norms.
I wonder how many open source libraries their driver codebase relies on, it had best be zero with that attitude.
Oh that’s too bad. Guess I’m not buying that shit.
In order to access my tax and benefit accounts on the Government of Canada website I can only use Chrome … making sure to wipe all cookies, etc afterwards.
I freaking hate shite like this.
Is that through the CRA website? I’ve been able to access it on Firefox (through Linux) without being hassled.
But yeah, websites that force you to use Chrome would get on my nerves. I’d be sandboxing that entire browsing session, too. LOL
I use FF on both Mac and PC for the CRA site. Can’t remember the last time I used a browser other than FF for anything.
I’ve had some sites simply not work right with Firefox, so I’ll use an alternative, usually just another flavour of Firefox, like Librewolf or Waterfox, and they tend to work just fine. It’s probably something to do with some of the locked down settings that I use on my primary browser, but it’s nothing compared to forced Google Chrome or gasp Internet Explorer. 😵
Chrome or chormium?
I’m pretty sure that duckduckgo browser is based on Chromium. That should work in Chrome’s stead.
Nope. I use multiple browsers (DDG, Ghostery, Waterfox, etc) and none of them work.
Have you tried changing the user agent to chrome?
Nope. I will try that and see if it works tho.
Thanks for the head’s up.
Update … it took a while but that does work on Ghostery. Thanks again. :)
Awesome!
Hey fellow canon man - https://lemm.ee/post/60130414
😀😀😀 Looks like I missed the memo on Lemmy 🤭🤭
“Yes, I’d like to return this camera because it’s an invasive piece of shit”
I have returned printers for requiring an internet connection out of spite.
I’ve been running across sites that demand I use Chrome on PC too, a non-starter since Google “upgraded” Chrome to prevent adblock use. My solution has been to install User Agent Switcher for Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/uaswitcher/. Works on both PC and phone.
The Canon app calls on the Chrome app to be there. It’s more than just the user agent, unfortunately.
So Chrome is sharing way more than the user agent with Canon? That’s just ridiculous. I hope someone with the time will take a good look about what information is being sent.
All I can day is that it would NOT work unless I also turned off my system wide adblocker (AdGuard).
For sure they are doing some shady shit.
Forward it to Louis Rossman. He’ll make an entire video about it and add it to the wiki tracking these scummy companies.
There is a wiki for tracking these?
This is amazing! Thank you!
I agree with pretty much all of that guy’s takes, but he REALLY sketches me out for some reason. I don’t know what it is.
Glad I’m not alone on that. I love reading about him, but I can’t watch his videos.
I cannot stand him. I agree with the broad idea of his message, but Jesus he’s insufferable and constantly feels like he’s talking down to his audience
I’d say the only thing ‘sketchy’ about Rossman is that he’s a normal human being.
It’s rare to see someone independent in our homogenized society. It makes sense that someone like you would be afraid of them.
Naw dude is just inherently sketchy. His mannerisms and way of talking are two big ones.
He’s the kinda guy that gives reason to the existence of the concept of a face guy. Rossman is not a face guy.
Nah it’s not that. And his “independent” takes are basically whatever is popular opinion on Lemmy (and formerly Reddit when I was on there.)
He’s a libertarian with the “Democrat and Republicans are the same picture” vibes to him.
That honestly tracks with how I feel he would be
Maybe cause he’s on the spectrum and you are picking up on that
Is he actually on the spectrum? Or are you speculating?
Well he did do a online test for Aspergers. But I don’t know if he has an official diagnosis or made any official claims, but he seems cognizant of this himself,
I don’t think that’s it… I and almost every single one of my friends are on the spectrum hahaha. It’s something else, like he tastes like a right-leaning secret prepper guy or something. I dunno. Maybe I’m just being stupid and judgy.
He grew up in New York and only recently moved. He’s got that New York attitude. Yeah it’s off putting.
that makes sense
He’s a new Yorker
The youtuber Adam Something is like that too imo
He admitted he used to be openly right wing and he is still very pro-NATO. That’s Ok though, I still like his fuck cars videos.
Is “pro-NATO” the new “both sides”?
pro-NATO is like how people used to say “Lincoln Republicans” to say “Well, I don’t agree with what the party is doing currently but I will continue to vote for them.”
Implying he isn’t right wing anymore, or just not openly?
I agree with most of the stuff he says, he just doesn’t seem very nuanced and I find the angry tone slightly off-putting. I like NJB tho, probably because he’s just sarcastic at some points for effect.
He acts like a somethingawful/4chan veteran. Every now and then something along those lines slips out and rubs me the wrong way too.
Like he’s often the good kind of libertarian, but occasionally also the bad kind.
Ahhh but I was a LUEser, a goon, then a heavy user of /b/ (until about 2009.) I don’t see myself in him at all hahaha
I used none of these sites and I’m telling you he seems like the type from the perspective of an outsider, and occasional victim/target of those kinds of sites :P
I’m sorry for your experience D:
I was a heavy user as a teen, and I definitely got into the stupid edgy humor but it was never directed at individuals for me. Then I grew up.
I agree with him on a lot of the tech stuff, but there’s some subtle hints of shit that I can’t consciously place that really bother me.
I really started to notice it when he was looking for a new location - the way that he talked to and about some people and things in those videos bothered me. Likewise, the way he moved to a red state because it meant he could pay less in taxes and shit. There’s something more but I can’t put my finger on it.
Same, not sure why. Maybe I heard something about him I didn’t like, but have since forgotten.
I heard he was entertaining the thought of turning his role in Tropic Thunder into a full spinoff movie.
That’s Les Grossman.
Isn’t that the guy who plays chess on youtube?
Les Nessman from WKRP in Cincinnati?
For a moment there I thought they’d locked down the SD card or something. Don’t people transfer to their computers anymore?
For file transfer, I prefer WIFI direct connect, unless it’s large video files.
But this app is used for more than file transfer, so you can’t even geotag photos (for example) unless you have an account. Crazy shit, since this would strictly be between your phone and camera.
It’s not like the geotagging was all that great anyway. The phone app sucked battery like an alcoholic with a fresh bottle.
Dude. I needed to use this app the other day for the remote shutter function, and I was somewhere with no signal and no internet. Only to discover that the app had updated and now required me to create an account to use it. I was pissed.
Same thing!! It sure steamed my broccoli.
mmmm steamed broccoli. drools
I thought they stopped making Cameras?
Anyways, learn to use a SD Card maybe. I would never install anything of theirs on any device, personally. I owned an old T5 once and it worked with their webcam software but they paywalled the full resolution, the bastards.
Good fucking printers, though. Better than HP. Not as good as an inktank for ink prices, tho.
Anyways, learn to use a SD Card maybe.
Completely irrelevant to the reason why I use the app, though.
I geotag photos, and that can only be done through the app.
I use live view, and that can only be done through the app.
Firmware updates. App.
You can do firmware updates with the SD Card, that’s the way it’s been done for decades.
I’m not going to pretend what geotagging and canon live view™ is but it sounds a lot like image metadata?
You can do firmware updates with the SD Card, that’s the way it’s been done for decades.
Yes, but I’m not checking Canon’s website for every camera I own, when the app would just tell you.
That’s one thing that I shouldn’t have to chase Canon for.
I’m not going to pretend what geotagging and canon live view™ is but it sounds a lot like image metadata?
Geotagging puts location data in the photo. This is something I add to every image, because I use location for searching.
Live view is cool. You can set up the camera, and view/control it through the app.
This has many applications, and should never need an account to access, since the app should be communicating directly with the camera.
Looks like someone needs to write an app that doesn’t have these requirements.
Another use said the older version of the app works without an account… but you need an internet connect, so that could “turn off” at any moment. This level of enshittification should be illegal.
That was me. FYI, the prior version of the app works without an internet connection. I just tried it and had no problem.
It’s only the current version that needs internet and for that only so it can force you to sign in.
You will assuredly want to disable automatic updates on the app, however, to keep it from updating again behind your back. And it’s still a buggy piece of shit in either incarnation.
magiclantern.
Jailbreak your shit. You own it don’t you?
Magic Lantern is awesome!
Unfortunately, it’s for higher-end cameras, not my old point-and-shoot cameras. And it doesn’t magically give your device GPS for geotagging images :(
The app was fine. The enshittification of the app is not.
Can you not just find and use an old version and disable updates for it?
Yes, another user already confirmed that the old version still works. I’ve done the same with the old GoPro app.
EDIT: but old versions have built-in planned obsolescence, because they won’t support newer devices (both cameras or smartphones) for very long. My Samsung 360 camera was rendered useless once they discontinued app support.
I have an old Gear VR and a Samsung S3. I don’t believe there is any way to use it today. It wants to connect to Facebook to log in, but their auth token has expired.
You actually can still use it, there’s some folks on reddit trying their best to keep it going. App support is very poor though.
It wants to connect to Facebook to log in
What a fucking cancer of integration.
Jailbreak your shit. You own it don’t you?
This is a useless comment. Most phones are not unlockable if you’re on a plan, since the carrier technically owns it.
Second, not all phones are jailbreakable.
Third, jailbreaking isn’t for everyone, not even close.
This is a useless comment.
Says the person who randomly brought up phones when the other person was talking about a camera jailbreak.
Jailbreaking locks you out of banking apps.
Maybe on Apple (?), bur GrapheneOS supports my banking apps just fine. The only thing missing is Google Pay, which I don’t use anyways
How? Having an unlocked bootloader or root breaks Safety Net, which disables many apps. You need an unlocked bootloader to install custom ROMs.
Magisck used to be a workaround, but Google has been sabotaging it at the OS and hardware layers, so it wasn’t working the last time I tried a few years ago.
I don’t think people are out here doing their banking on their Canon DSLRs
Don’t you gotta jailbreak your phone as well? Otherwise it will require the chrome browser
No, installing magiclantern on a jailbroken camera means you don’t need to do the Canon sign in bullshit at all.
Yes indeed, I just wrote a rant about this in the Canon community on here.
The two edges of this sword: All of the functionality worked in the previous edition of the app without the “mandatory” account. The upshot of this is, if you grab an APK of the previous (3.2.40.36) version of the app it still works just fine sans account, because the requirement is completely artificial and your camera’s hardware has not changed.
That’s what I did for now, but given that I only ever used the damn thing as an overwrought remote shutter button when doing macrophotography (you’ll never guess the subject), I just bought $6 aftermarket remote release and moved on with life.
For added fun and excitement, if you don’t have internet connectivity the app won’t work. So, like, if you’re out in the wilds on a hike with your camera. Nobody ever does that, right?
All apps are crap. This one is extra crap, now. I’ve never used it for geotagging and certainly not for transferring images – not more than once, anyway, because on my phone it takes a solid 15 seconds per image. It would be faster for me to not only take the card out, but crack it open and inspect it with a tunneling electron microscope and type the ones and zeroes into a terminal by hand. I just put the damn card in a reader instead. Always have done.
I was wondering what the OP was talking about since I use the app pretty frequently and haven’t had to make an account. Guess that clears it up; I won’t be updating it in the future.
I use it to transfer images to my computer so I don’t have to pull out the sd card. But the tip with the apk is good, will do that too
Just the tip?
My German came through, its meant as ‘a hint’ or ‘an idea’
Yeah, I’m aware of the idiom, just want sure if tip was used the same in english
The two edges of this sword: All of the functionality worked in the previous edition of the app without the “mandatory” account. The upshot of this is, if you grab an APK of the previous (3.2.40.36) version of the app it still works just fine sans account, because the requirement is completely artificial and your camera’s hardware has not changed.
Thank you for confirming! I do this with the GoPro Quik app, and I’d have no problem doing it here.
I have a Sony compact camera with built-in GPS. The newer models require the app for live geotagging. These are the games I refuse to play.
when doing macrophotography (you’ll never guess the subject),
Close, but it could arguably be something compensating for the same!
Thanks for the heads up. It’s version code 77 when downloading manually from Aurora Store in case anyone else is wondering. Please blacklist Canon Camera Connect after installing it to avoid further updates.
I don’t have much experience with cameras but isn’t it usually sd cards that you can pull out and transfer using a sd reader? Does the camera have internal storage that needs an account and app?
For data transfer only, yes, you can eject the SD card and copy your files.
But the app is used for other features, too. So you’re inconvenienced no matter what feature you use.
Yeah I guessed that much but your original post was a bit confusing as it doesn’t mention the app. Hence the question.
Can you not just transfer via usb drive connection?
The app was used for live view and also geotagging, in addition to file transfer. So this requirement affects several features.
